• irmoz
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    The invasion was always going to happen

    If you agree with Putin, yes.

    Hold on - am I talking to Putin right now? Or just his personal aide?

    Am I going to read about a Russian (that’s how you spell it, not Rus*ia) social media secretary being disappeared after embarrassing themselves online?

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      If you agree with Putin, yes.

      Who I agree with is irrelevant to reality. Sadly, he never asked my opinion on the invasion. I’m just stating the facts here, facts about reality which does seem like the sticking point with you.

      And I don’t spell rus*ia with a capital r, they don’t deserve it.

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        Who I agree with is irrelevant to reality

        So, you do agree.

        Also, it’s not the capitalisation I’m disputing. And I don’t believe your posturing.

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            You seem to think his reasons are valid. Stop dancing around that. You said he “had no choice but to invade”. That means you think he was justified in invading.

            He wasn’t.

            I also “acknowledge the existence of his reasons” just the same as I “acknowledge the existence” of the reasons a child steals candy. They wanted it. The reason exists, sure, but it doesn’t make it a good or valid one.

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              You seem to think his reasons are valid.

              I dont

              You said he “had no choice but to invade”.

              Yep

              That means you think he was justified in invading.

              What? :D you literally just quoted me? :D Did I say “I think he had no choice but to invade and I agree with his reasons and the conclusions he came to” or “had no choice but to invade”.

              Man, you truly are a tankie. Like a labgrown unfiltered nazi, sorry, tankie.

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                You literally said he had no choice but to invade. That is, from you, a statement of believed fact. Why are you trying to backpedal, here? This is what you said. You even agree that I quoted you. How can you say “he had no choice but to invade”, and now imply you never claimed to agree?

                If you didn’t agree, you’d have said “Putin claimed he had no choice”. But you didn’t. You said, flat out, he had no choice.

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                  You literally said he had no choice but to invade.

                  I still don’t see the problem with the statement. He really didn’t, rus*ian geopolitic doctrine insists on Ukraine being existential for their country, he had no choice but to invade.

                  He had no choice but to invade.

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                    Aw, poor little put upon Putin was so blocked in, he really had no choice but to brutally murder thousands of people for conquest. He had a gun against his head, don’t you see!

                    Wtf is wrong with you? You don’t think he could have just… NOT FUCKING INVADED?

                    Fucking Nazi.