hy im trying to install arch as the third os on my windows / ubuntu machine and i cant figure it out how to set the grub bootloader i have already read the friendly manual but probably also due to my non native English origins i coudnt find an answer to my question witch is during the arch install should i reinstall grub with grub-install ? i would prefer to keep the old (ubuntu) one also because its already customized but unfortunately i cant…if i dont install it i dont have the directory /boot/grub in witch i should place the grub.conf file so should i just create this directory ? i have tried with os-prober correctly activated to generate a new grub.conf but it doesnt pick up the arch install …, what are the files i must have to make grub recognize those partitions as a new os to witch assign a new boot entry …

  • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    5·
    10 months ago

    you should be able to reuse the /boot partition from arch, I’m pretty sure. you can just update the grub configuration ubuntu set up to add arch to it that way.

    • DNOSOP
      3·
      10 months ago

      Sorry I’m trying to install arch after Ubuntu what did u mean by reusing the boot partition from arch you mean try to update grub from the arch install while in Chroot?

      • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        no like you can skip the entire grub-install part and just mount your ubuntu /boot partition as your boot partition in arch and go through the normal install process. then at the end, you just update the grub.cfg to include the arch install.

        edit: if you don’t have a separate ubuntu /boot partition, you’re going to need to reinstall it with a separate boot partition, or configure the bootloader in arch and do grub-install but stick in the ubuntu boot block into grub.cfg. the issue is that you’re still going to need to update the configuration on the ubuntu side so it uses the arch /boot partition and installs kernels there.

        • DNOSOP
          1·
          10 months ago

          Thanks a lot man I would love to tell you I understand everything but unfortunately the only part that I got was the first and I don’t have a separate boot partition :( so what do you mean by stick in the ubuntu boot block into grub config I have to reinstall grub from arch then I update it making a new .Cfg and then remaining in the arch install I should find and add the other two boot entries ? Should I delete grub before installing it again ? Im asking because I think I have already tried to install it and i believe I was still using the ubuntu one … What about updating grub on the Ubuntu side how am I going to boot into it ? Thanks a lot man I don’t want to waste your time u gave me some nice homeworks I will be back in a few days …

          • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
            1·
            10 months ago

            no worries! you want a separate boot partition on your hard disk to make this all easier. if you don’t have one already, I would make one, then go back through the arch install. at the end, there should be instructions on how to update the grub.cfg for arch. you’ll need to do the exact same thing for Ubuntu. the only hard part is that Ubuntu is set up right now to not mount a /boot partition so when you install updates, the updated boot images won’t get installed in the right place. so you need to boot into Ubuntu first and change /etc/fstab so it mounts the boot partition to /boot. then you need to run:

            sudo update-bootloader --refresh

            then you can go back and do the arch install with the same /boot partition and run grub-install. there’s detailed instructions on how to change the boot partition here and the ArchWiki should have the rest.

            • DNOSOP
              2·
              10 months ago

              Thank you so much it’s like a couple of weeks I’m going back and forth on this topic and this is the biggest step I have done … I will surely let you know if I successfully end up bricking my PC :)

              Btw I’m sorry for any previous gender errors I have just noticed the correct pronouns 😅

                • DNOSOP
                  2·
                  10 months ago

                  Hey do you know if it’s normal then after mounting the /boot partition, adding this … UUID=1f32… /boot ext4 defaults 0 2 … to the fatab and updating grub with grub-update or white grub mkconfig.io… I can’t no longer boot into Ubuntu ?it puts me in some kind of recovery mode Should I proceed anyway with the arch install ? Does the problem come from the fact I haven’t already reinstalled grub ? PS I have tried the --refresh flag but apparently it doesn’t exist …

                  • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    3·
                    10 months ago

                    yeah, you need to run grub-install now, so do it from the arch install environment. you’ll be able to boot into Ubuntu once that’s done (assuming grub.cfg is properly configured for Ubuntu)

      • intelati@programming.dev
        1·
        9 months ago

        I went the GUI route with EndeavorOS. I had to set (flag?) the existing bootloader to /boot/efi I believe. Then I was able to install normally from there.

        (Was coming from Manjaro)