Sinéad O’Connor 1966-2023

  • Mic_Check_One_Two
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    The issue was that it wasn’t really widely known at the time. Or at least, it was easier to handwave away as rumors and speculation. The church was still doing a pretty good job of keeping a lid on all their issues. So when she did it, all the Catholics immediately disregarded the protest and jumped on the “she hates God and Catholics” bandwagon. Some of the abuse was well known, but it wasn’t recognized to be anywhere near as pervasive and ubiquitous as it is these days.

    She essentially made herself an easy target by not explicitly clarifying what she was protesting. Lots of people simply saw her ripping up the photo of the pope without any context as to why, so it was easy to take out of context.

    • Syldon@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      11 months ago

      Sorry to disillusion you but this was well known in the 70’s. It was a standing joke. People knew they just never confronted the issue because ethical standards were pretty low back then.

      • Mic_Check_One_Two
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        11 months ago

        Yes and no. It was known among the churchgoers. The altar boys knew which priests to avoid, and why. The parishioners knew, or at least heard rumors. And when a priest was suddenly transferred across the country/internationally, it was pretty widely accepted as code for “they got caught.” But they didn’t tend to talk about it outside of the church, and the news was still afraid to be labeled as anti-catholic if they reported on it.

        So the general public only really heard the jokes, rumors, and speculation. And the church had the plausible deniability to allow them to screech about being unfairly attacked. And it worked. The church happily played the role of the victim, and the general public turned on her.

        • Syldon@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          11 months ago

          The general public were the congregations that went to the churches. I was brought up in a catholic system in the 70’s.

    • AttackBunny@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      11 months ago

      Iirc she was a pretty young adult when she did it. Not the age bracket for thinking ahead.

      I get what you’re saying, but at the same time, even young me wanted to know more about what she was saying because it was clearly real.

      I also agree it was a different time and the way info was handled and disseminated was wildly different too.

      She just got the absolute shit end of the deal though.

      • Squizzy@lemmy.world
        cake
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        11 months ago

        I think she was principled, it doesn’t mean she wasn’t looking forward she was setting herself aside in favour of a justified cause in her eyes. It was selfless not poor forethought.

        • teydam@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          11 months ago

          She said in an article i read today that she was proud because it prevented her from being No. 1 again, which is something she never intended. What a badass punk.