California Gov. Gavin Newsom proposes slashing millions from 'public safety' as the Democratic state grapples with a massive budget deficit totaling $37.9 billion.
My interests are keeping addicts in prison and enforcing the laws to keep crime down. I have no interest in treating addicts other than putting them in jail.
We don’t have common interest. Your ideology is what is degrading the country. You expect everyone to give you a handout rather than working for things. It is the major difference between the conservatives and liberals. One ideology is based on earning things and the other is about taking things from others.
I have no interest in treating addicts other than putting them in jail.
Which is just fucking horrible. They’re addicts because of the way human brains work, addicts can and do stay addicts inside prison too, so that’s also not a justifiable solution.
Unfortunately you’re just buying years of conservative propaganda funded by for-profit prisons.
Your ideology is what is degrading the country.
That’s just like, your opinion man.
You expect everyone to give you a handout rather than working for things.
Nope you’re just parroting right-wing talking points. I genuinely want us all to succeed. That means helping the less fortunate ones or those struggling. That doesn’t mean “handouts”. That means what we pay into the government I want to see benefit all of society. Even the ones you don’t want to look at. That’s all.
One ideology is based on earning things and the other is about taking things from others.
This is like, a 2nd grade-level take on the difference.
Once again, it isn’t a culture war. It’s a class war. And you aren’t in the class you think you are.
Unfortunately you’re just buying years of conservative propaganda funded by for-profit prisons.
Never mentioned for profit prisons. How about not making things up?
That’s just like, your opinion man.
No, that’s a fact. The red states are flourishing, and people are moving there in mass. Those states generally share my values.
That means helping the less fortunate ones or those struggling.
That isn’t my job. If I want to donate to charity, that should by my choice and not through tax money.
Once again, it isn’t a culture war. It’s a class war. And you aren’t in the class you think you are.
I am very much in the class that I think I am, but we are not in the same socioeconomic class by a long shot. That is because I didn’t expect people to give me handouts, nor do I want a nanny state.
You don’t have to dude. Most new prisoners are being sent to for-profit prisons. The amount of prisoners in the system have been doubling decade over decade since the 80’s.
This just shows how clueless you are to the actual situation. Clearly throwing people we don’t like in prison isn’t fixing anything.
No, that’s a fact. The red states are flourishing, and people are moving there in mass. Those states generally share my values.
It’s en masse, and they’re actually leaving. That’s why blue states are seeing their population numbers increase and housing is getting tougher to find. There are more people because red states keep passing asinine laws that are just there for posturing and don’t actually help anyone. Don’t believe me? Go move to Florida idgaf hahaha.
I am very much in the class that I think I am, but we are not in the same socioeconomic class by a long shot. That is because I didn’t expect people to give me handouts, nor do I want a nanny state.
lol you don’t know jack shit about me and my net worth or my donation habits. You’re just assuming I fit in the bubble you think I should fit in. Meanwhile you’ve told me your standing on the world stage in terms of how much you earn and I can confidently say you do not meet the criteria. Sorry pal. You’re just as shitty as the rest of us.
lol why do you feel the need to flex your wealth like that’s going to change my mind somehow? You still don’t know anything about me. People who posture like that generally do so out of some insecurity so they don’t look weak. Have I touched a nerve?
And wow congratulations, you found 2 blue states that have seen a little decline in recent years but fail to recognize the trend over the past decade of those places, and also fail to see how the small decline in population of two blue states doesn’t refute my statement. Oh my god, how is Oregon doing to recover from a 0.6% decline?!?!?!
Go to Florida if you hate it there so much. I’m sure you can build a nice big raft with all your money that will keep you safe as the state sinks further into the ocean.
I am not flexing at all. It is what it is. You haven’t touched a nerve at all. Low-income people don’t grasp how much we pay in taxes since they don’t pay anything close to what we pay in taxes. It’s why they repeat buzzwords like tax the rich or the rich don’t pay their fair share when we do.
It refutes your statement because you didn’t cite anything and just babbled. You are free to post a counter cite.
Also your claim about private prisons was wrong as well. About 8% of the prison population is in a private prison.
I don’t need to post a counter cite a 0.6% decline is nothing.
Omg it must be so hard to have money. You should just give it away if you’re sick of paying all those taxes.
Hahaha I know the 8% figure you’re talking about and it’s not that. The people who have been put into for-prisons in the past 2 years make up 8% of the imprisoned population, or about 13.5x the rate of people who left Oregon.
Think about that though. 8% of all incarcerated people in for-profit prisons were put there in 2022. That’s a HUGE chunk of the imprisoned population in only the last few years, and it’s only going to get worse.
Nah. You’re up there but you’re not bezos-level.
To the stupid wealthy you’re no better than the rest of us when society crumbles you’ll be just as fucked as the rest of us.
The only way out is for us to unite on common interests, but conservative media has programmed you too much to be willing to do that.
My interests are keeping addicts in prison and enforcing the laws to keep crime down. I have no interest in treating addicts other than putting them in jail.
We don’t have common interest. Your ideology is what is degrading the country. You expect everyone to give you a handout rather than working for things. It is the major difference between the conservatives and liberals. One ideology is based on earning things and the other is about taking things from others.
Which is just fucking horrible. They’re addicts because of the way human brains work, addicts can and do stay addicts inside prison too, so that’s also not a justifiable solution.
Unfortunately you’re just buying years of conservative propaganda funded by for-profit prisons.
That’s just like, your opinion man.
Nope you’re just parroting right-wing talking points. I genuinely want us all to succeed. That means helping the less fortunate ones or those struggling. That doesn’t mean “handouts”. That means what we pay into the government I want to see benefit all of society. Even the ones you don’t want to look at. That’s all.
This is like, a 2nd grade-level take on the difference.
Once again, it isn’t a culture war. It’s a class war. And you aren’t in the class you think you are.
Never mentioned for profit prisons. How about not making things up?
No, that’s a fact. The red states are flourishing, and people are moving there in mass. Those states generally share my values.
I am very much in the class that I think I am, but we are not in the same socioeconomic class by a long shot. That is because I didn’t expect people to give me handouts, nor do I want a nanny state.
You don’t have to dude. Most new prisoners are being sent to for-profit prisons. The amount of prisoners in the system have been doubling decade over decade since the 80’s.
This just shows how clueless you are to the actual situation. Clearly throwing people we don’t like in prison isn’t fixing anything.
It’s en masse, and they’re actually leaving. That’s why blue states are seeing their population numbers increase and housing is getting tougher to find. There are more people because red states keep passing asinine laws that are just there for posturing and don’t actually help anyone. Don’t believe me? Go move to Florida idgaf hahaha.
lol you don’t know jack shit about me and my net worth or my donation habits. You’re just assuming I fit in the bubble you think I should fit in. Meanwhile you’ve told me your standing on the world stage in terms of how much you earn and I can confidently say you do not meet the criteria. Sorry pal. You’re just as shitty as the rest of us.
Cite
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-02-15/californias-population-has-dropped-by-more-than-half-a-million-in-about-two-years-why#:~:text=California has been seeing a decline in population,crime and pollution in the larger urban centers.
https://www.opb.org/article/2023/12/26/oregon-population-declined-for-second-year-in-row-according-to-census-data/#:~:text=Oregon’s population went down by a little more,went down by 0.5%25%2C or about 23%2C000 people.
I know we are not in the same bracket. Not even close. Not in income or wealth. If you have to work to make a living then we are not in the same boat.
lol why do you feel the need to flex your wealth like that’s going to change my mind somehow? You still don’t know anything about me. People who posture like that generally do so out of some insecurity so they don’t look weak. Have I touched a nerve?
And wow congratulations, you found 2 blue states that have seen a little decline in recent years but fail to recognize the trend over the past decade of those places, and also fail to see how the small decline in population of two blue states doesn’t refute my statement. Oh my god, how is Oregon doing to recover from a 0.6% decline?!?!?!
Go to Florida if you hate it there so much. I’m sure you can build a nice big raft with all your money that will keep you safe as the state sinks further into the ocean.
I am not flexing at all. It is what it is. You haven’t touched a nerve at all. Low-income people don’t grasp how much we pay in taxes since they don’t pay anything close to what we pay in taxes. It’s why they repeat buzzwords like tax the rich or the rich don’t pay their fair share when we do.
It refutes your statement because you didn’t cite anything and just babbled. You are free to post a counter cite.
Also your claim about private prisons was wrong as well. About 8% of the prison population is in a private prison.
So far everything you have said is wrong.
I don’t need to post a counter cite a 0.6% decline is nothing.
Omg it must be so hard to have money. You should just give it away if you’re sick of paying all those taxes.
Hahaha I know the 8% figure you’re talking about and it’s not that. The people who have been put into for-prisons in the past 2 years make up 8% of the imprisoned population, or about 13.5x the rate of people who left Oregon.
Think about that though. 8% of all incarcerated people in for-profit prisons were put there in 2022. That’s a HUGE chunk of the imprisoned population in only the last few years, and it’s only going to get worse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4L20t8Dvlg
Don’t be so quick to call others wrong when you are too hahahah.