‘If Tesla gets unionized it’s because we deserve it’: Elon Musk says he’s made his factory workers millionaires but concedes some may still turn against him
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Elon Musk says the UAW’s plans to unionize Tesla staff will be down, in part, to the company’s failings if successful.

I am a big fan of Tesla. The cars are amazing. Generally I respect Elon, who has a track record of success. I support unions but I would never join one.

I think this is the best quote from the article.

“I don’t know, maybe they will unionize,” he mused. “If Tesla gets unionized it will be because we deserved it, and because we failed in some way.”

Elon has made many employees rich. If they unionize, they jeopardize the benefits that made them rich. I can’t see the company agreeing to be as generous when dealing with a union.

  • yuri@lemm.ee
    10·
    7 months ago

    God damn the brain rot on conservatives these days. I seriously didn’t think any intelligent adult would be anti-union, but I guess that could still be true.

      • Neuromancer@lemm.eeOPM
        3·
        7 months ago

        I have to ponder why he thinks everyone should be pro-union. In a union I wouldn’t be able to negotiate my wage, my bonus, my vacation or a plethora of other things that I can do now. I would be stuck adhering to union rules and procedures as well.

        I get for some people who don’t have real jobs skills, a union would sound attractive but for someone with a high-demand skill set, I see it as limiting.

          • Neuromancer@lemm.eeOPM
            2·
            7 months ago

            I admit I am highly educated, trained and good at what I do. If I look at what my coworkers are paid, on average, I make double what they make. Most of my peers are around 180 full packages. I am around 400K full package. WTF would I want to be in a union and make half of what I make? I can also dictate my hours, what I will or won’t do, etc. All things I wouldn’t be able to in a union.

            At my last job, I worked from 9-11 and then from 1-4. Those were the hours I was available when i wasn’t traveling. A union would never put up with that crap.

    • Neuromancer@lemm.eeOPM
      3·
      7 months ago

      I personally support the right for others to unionize but I would never join a union. There is zero benefit for me to join a union.

      For the average worker I could see the draw but for me there is zero positives to joining a union.

    • crashfrog@lemm.ee
      1·
      7 months ago

      Unions aren’t for everyone, and that’s an important principle that protects the negotiating power of unions.

      Unions are weakened if you allow management and professionals to unionize or participate in collective bargaining. Unions should only be for unskilled, low-barrier-to-entry labor sectors. Are Tesla factory workers low-skill? I don’t know enough about how their factories work to say, but the fact that they’re awarding equity to line workers suggests that they don’t see it that way.

  • uzi@lemmy.ca
    3·
    7 months ago

    No,…no,…unions are Marxist. Employers have the right to fire anyone who tried to unionize. Unions need to be outlawed.

    On the other size, employers need to show a lot more hospitality and generosity to the people that made the company successful. There’s a balance of don’t push an employee for every minute of work on the clock, but also if an employee can not maintain integrity of work required, or simply oesn’t feel like working at the moment during their shift, the company needs to be free to fire them.

    Employees must stop demanding so much because they don’t pay for all the blot of expenses a company must pay out before starting on salaries, and empoyers must do more to help employees develop more skills for higher levels of success since successful employees who are well supported will only expand the company further.