okay Google, how about this. I already pay for premium, but Im too lazy to disable my adblocker for just your site, can we just call it a draw and move on?
Hah! I’d like to see them try. Revanced, newpipe, throwaway accounts, I’ll find a way around it. They can pry ublock origin from my cold dead paws.
paws
Shudders
You may have inadvertently stumbled into this thread on kbin.social’s all federated content feed or similar, but this thread is on the pawb.social instance. You can’t exactly march into the furry den and then complain that the place is chock-full of furries.
This is definitely something that’s going to take some adjustment with the “threadiverse”, I think. Not only do you need to check what the community culture is like, you also need to check what the instance culture is like.
I wish I had read your response before going into my diatribe! Would have saved me some time!
do you know what community you're in
I don’t want to be a jerk, but maybe don’t look at content from PAWb.social if you’re going to be a dick to its members simply for existing in their space. If it’s truly an issue, KBin allows you to block the group (but I don’t think it easily allows blocking the whole instance).
The Fediverse is awesome since it allows us all to seamlessly communicate with each other, but keep in mind we are all individual groupings of communities and looking at where the content comes from needs to become second nature. If too many people from KBin are jerks to these folks, they’ll just disconnect from us and call it a day since all the good conversations in the world don’t really matter if they’re being treated like dirt.
With that said, even if they were talking in a KBin instance though … seriously, it would have cost you nothing to ignore and move on (or block and move on if it really rustled your jimmies). Hell, even downvote and move on! This isn’t a matter of someone being a shit-stain on humanity, it was just them using the word ‘paws’ to refer to a few appendages, what’s the big deal? They’re not asking you to do the same.
I refuse to disable my ad blocker… and it seems that many others won’t either.
I seriously don’t understand why they’re so aggressive about this.
I would consider maybe turning off my adblocker if they ran single ads and didn’t make them so long, and actually did some curation on their ads so I didn’t see a fake MrBeast scam ad or political ad every time. Yet they don’t, so I will continue to find ways to block ads until I no longer can.
Companies pay YouTube for advertisements. Google’s not just putting ads on videos for fun.
I don’t think anyone disagrees with that, but YouTube today has a lot more ads, especially spammy ones, than YouTube 7 years ago did. This is an issue with them using a business model that doesn’t scale very well.
I’m certainly not paying for youtube premium (and making a google account in the process). I’ll probably just stop watching youtube if uBO can’t get around it.
(Peertube speedrun?)
this could be peertube’s time to shine!
I’d love for that to be the case, but realistically many Youtubers see Youtube as a revenue source (which is a terrible idea, because Google blatantly doesn’t care about them), which Peertube can’t really replicate.
To be fair, for some youtubers, their primary source of incomes are Patreon and In-Video Sponsorships, which can be done on Peertube. After all, we’ve seen some youtubers, notably The Linux Experiment, use Peertube.
The biggest hurdles here would be user base. It’d be difficult to grow peertube’s userbase because most creators there rely on youtube as an income-- unlike reddit or twitter where it’s mostly unpaid social media stuff, so most would be scared to move to a new platform as it’d be too detrimental to rebuild their userbase.
That and the instance’s funding, which, you know…
I mean, if you make the right tools, it doesn’t take much to replicate video on both YouTube and PeerTube and God knows what else.
Though I can imagine YouTube demonetizing non-exclusive content as a way to counter that.
considers
That might run afoul of antitrust regulators, though.
In cases where users feel they have been falsely accused
…what? You’ve either been falsely accused or not. It’s not an opinionated matter.
Why the fuck do you pay for that shit?
This is good.
Because it means more people will be using Peertube. Just like how people started jumping over to Lemmy after Reddit’s API BS, and to Mastodon after Elon Musk fucked over Twitter.
Youtube, I know you aren’t going to read this, but could you PLEASE make it clearer in your marketing that about half the premium sub goes to the creators?
I’m not giving you £12 a month, but giving you £6 a month and giving £6 a month to creators is something I can get behind. Like, you don’t need to be so antagonistic here, you can just lean into the “support creators!” aspect much, much more.
50% is ridiculous. Why not support the creators directly themselves instead of Google?
I do just that. I give $15/mo total spread out across my top watched creators on patreon and use ublock origin and sponsorblock. I dont see any ads, creators get significantly more money, I pay roughly the same as premium. Google gets nothing. Win win win.
Maybe just stop watching youtube? I don’t even watch an hour of youtube tutorials a month. Go ahead and kick me off, I’ll just stop visiting the site. Just like I’m doing with reddit (which I’ve even blocked at the router level to avoid it)
I was surprised at how little I actually cared about the reddit communities I was subscribed to. I switched to Lemmy on 6/12 and just never thought about reddit again. I use a couple RSS feeds to get the same news now (which is a better idea anyway), and Lemmy has enough people in the topics I’m actually interested in so I don’t feel like I’m missing any important discussion.
I suspect it will be the same story with Youtube for me. I really don’t need to be watching Youtube 95% of the time. I tune in to videos because it’s convenient. If Google is going to make it inconvenient, the value proposition changes and I’d rather do something else to fill my time. I wonder if there will be backlash from creators now that many users are inherently disincentivized from visiting Youtube…
Everything Google has done since the end of the, “Don’t be evil”, days has made me want less and less to do with them. I’ve been trying to scrub them from my life for a bit now, the only two things I still use being Gmail and YouTube. Though I’m pretty close to cutting those ties as well now. I just wish more the creators i liked weren’t only on there.
The problem is, there is no alternative to youtube. Like, at all.
So many social media services are going to shit right now, Reddit, Twitter, YouTube… This might be the time to shine for fediverse.
Either this is the year where people start to realize you can do things without a profit motive, or the fediverse is destined to be like irc - too good to die, too scary to grow
Welp, I’ll be on peertube then. My adblocker stays on.
I haven’t used PeerTube more than a brief glance, but it doesn’t seem to have a lot of content.
Like, for a forum, me moving to kbin means something in terms of production. I write text, thus I create content.
But I’m not sure how many people create video and want to move to PeerTube.
And from a user standpoint, it’s a lot harder to switch without content creators there.
Okay, new theory: Google, Reddit, and Twitter are taking part in a breakneck race to see who can become the most hated platform on all of the internet. Within just the past few days we’ve had this three-strikes test, Elon’s new 600-Tweet reading limit, and I’m pretty sure we all know what’s going down with Reddit.
Here’s my theory - Musk met with trump in 2020, and while it seemed like he started simping for the guy, it actually woke him up to the danger the world is in.
I used to praise him because not because he was a visionary - he’s not. Rather, because he read a lot of sci-fi growing up, and got the public and investors to get excited about important tech for humanity.
He also watches anime, and in Lelouch, a sci-fi anime, Lelouch dethrones the tyrannical emperor, his father. He starts as a populist hero, starting a grassroots resistance. He frees Japan, then works his way to the emperor enthroned in Britain .
He keeps going, taking the last few countries still free from Britannia though incredibly ruthless methods. He takes over the world, and starts to act like a tyrant, uniting the world in hatred against himself. He then arranges his friend, a popular war hero, to very publicly assassinate him
The world is now at peace - he demilitarized it to “secure his rule”. The people are hopeful, they’re finally free from tyranny - but they remember it well. There’s no leaders and they’ll need to organize, but not under an individual.
He became a symbol to take on everyone’s hatred, a powerful reminder of the dangers of giving away authority. And while it seemed like he was destroying everything in his way, everything he did removed threats that would make it harder to build a kinder, better world.
It’s called the zero requiem - and I’ve been joking since Musk was locked into buying Twitter that this is what he’s doing.
But damn if he hasn’t followed that script - not only is he going down along with Twitter, but he managed to convince all the big corporate networks to turn on their users too.
When he announced they would remove blocking it started to be less of a joke, that sounds dumb on every level… But this isn’t just killing the cash cow, this is doing it with explosives so no one can even use the meat. No way no one ran the numbers against metrics and told him just how crazy and stupid this is… He’s weaning the users off Twitter even as he makes it even more user hostile
