- cross-posted to:
- digitslfreedom@exploding-heads.com
- cross-posted to:
- digitslfreedom@exploding-heads.com
Two years ago when I launched Exploding-Heads, Lemmy offered a way to let me play a small role in fighting back against:
- censorship
- deplatforming
- propaganda
- Big Tech tyranny, and
- to help spread suppressed stories.
I knew Lemmy had its challenges, but I hoped it would evolve for the better. Sadly after 2 years, the culture of censorship through defederation has only grown stronger.
Meanwhile a better alternative has sprung up in the form of Nostr:
- it lets you own your own profile - if you move to another Nostr app or site, you still keep your content and followers
- it makes censorship very difficult
- it is not perfect, but is evolving for the better very quickly.
As a user you should not be at the mercy of instance operators who are
- petty tyrants, or
- benevolent dictators (who may turn tyrannical at any moment)
I do not feel I can alter the tyrannical direction Lemmy is heading in and I want to dedicate my time and resources to a better alternative.
So Exploding Heads is moving to Nostr.
Exploding-Heads.com will go offline August 31st 2023.
Please join us on Nostr.
Exploding Heads address on Nostr is npub1qprptnnuwnqc6h6wxc2q07rfwcmj7cfc6g4r5dgnlkxaysmpr0mqc5365p
Sounds complicated, but it is pretty easy. Here is what I recommend to get started
Amethyst App
- Lets you follow people
- Lets you follow #hastags (I have been using communities as a substitute for #hashtags on Lemmy
- Has evolving support for communities
Habla.news
- a Nostr alternative for Medium for long form content
Damus app (Apple IOS)
If you have any questions about getting up and running on Nostr, please ask them here https://exploding-heads.com/c/nostrblog
In closing, I sincerely apologize to all of you who are going to lose their profiles and content (please get anything you want off by August 31st), but it proves my warning about the problem with relying on benevolent dictators.
Please make sure to say hi to us on Nostr.
I hope the majority of our wonderful Exploding Heads community will make the move to Nostr with us.
I’m disappointed that federation has not proven to be censorship resistant enough to make your presence here feel worth while. I hope that the Nostr protocol lets you build the community that you want to build without being cut-off from the broader network due to centralized decisions. I think that censorship resistance is an important property that needs to be baked into the infrastructure of our future networks.
Good luck ✌️
Not again. Can’t we just keep the instance and host the Nostr relay on another domain? This will be a big loss for lemmy and the whole fediverse since there are not many free speech reddit alternatives.
Yea I kind of agree. I’m scared EH will fall apart of left on nostr alone. I’m use to it now, but the Twitter style is a huge turn off. I’m just waiting for a legit reddit nostr style app
I also don’t like the twitter style or at least I am not too familiar with it. I would much more prefer to stay here untill a better app has been developed.
Yea dude I feel the same. I fucking hate the Twitter style can’t fucking stand it. I only deal with it because it’s like no one wants a reddit clone I don’t get it
yeah, not pleased about this as somebody who set up shop to start a community or two which goes against the current shitlib hivemind consensus 🤷
F it aint real alternative cuz rip our communities here
This… I dont want to lose what we have right now and I dont care about others defederating us 😅
Is it possible to host a Nostr relay and a Lemmy instance on the same domain?
Yesn’t. At least the “easy way” where both domains look the same is impossible. You can use the same domain but lemmy would look like domain.com and the relay would look like domain.com:7777.
Couldn’t we just change the domain for Lemmy to lemmy.exploding-heads.com? I know everyone will have to refederate(or redefederate), but is that even a problem at this point?
Yes, it is a problem. Old posts will show up under the old domain and probably won’t be moderatable by the community’s mods.
Won’t we have the exact same problem if Exploding Heads goes away completely? At least we would have someplace to go like the existing instance.
Bad call man. We don’t care about defederation as much as you do apparently. Let us be
Since many are expressing disappointment in this site going down, can I take this opportunity to promote my forum, Rabbit Hole? It’s a simple phpBB forum that supports free speech, allows guest posting from Tor, and aggregates the content on the landing page. I’m afraid many won’t make the transition to Nostr and the community will fall apart. I made RH partially as a Saidit alternative, since that site has many problems. However, it hasn’t taken off. Saidit still works so people seem to be sticking to it in spite of the flaws. If this community migrates there, there will be enough activity to make it more appealing for other users to join and I can more easily advertise it on a couple of related communities. My goal is to combine the conspiracy / freedom niche with imageboard culture and an imageboard-like design (but using phpBB for the extra features).
migration paths discussion: https://exploding-heads.com/post/792397?scrollToComments=true
Problem is that Lemmy UI works really nice. I never liked the oldschool forum design. Old Reddit UI did some dumb shit but threaded comments are a must have these days.
I’m considering switching to either Lemmy or Kbin. The latter is also nice for integrating microblogging and boosts. One problem however is that votes can easily be manipulated. I feel like at one point it would have to default to a chronological sorting of comments, to mitigate manipulation.
Basedcount admin didnt fix the federations so im willing to hop over if you can support the instance for at least a while without wacking it within a month of growing popularity lol.
Thinking of making my own forum with a more modern looking ui at this point because Lemmy is just reddit with extra steps.
We don’t need to go more modern, we need to go retro! 💪
YESSIR!!
migration paths discussion (besides nostr): https://exploding-heads.com/post/792397?scrollToComments=true
Yea, bad twitter doesn’t really seem like it’s fits my style. I’m a simple machines kind of guy, reddit and these reddit clones are close enough to scratch that itch.
Twitter though? I’ve disliked twitter since the day it came out. Microblogging is the worst and I don’t understand why there needs to be about 15 different versions of this shit. Guess the world fell in love with it that one year when all the news media told us to use it. Seriously, I remember getting a Twitter account, not understand what good it’s for other than status updates, like, when a server goes down. Then suddenly every radio station was blathering about how they can’t stop sharing how they’re eating a sandwich and how many times they shit so far that day.
Edit:
Nice meeting y’all, doubt I’ll last on the new platform.
Crap. Not sure how to interact on Nostr.
What app are you using?
Amethyst.
What’s your public key? Starts with npub
npub1v5ndwp2f06m8l6yn43w3a8pefmgpl8klxqdepuyvn8wxywl7vfqsreyewg
Got it. I see you
I tried it. I don’t get it. It’s like a shitty Twitter with content I don’t care about. I prefer the Lemmy format.
I’m going to miss EH. I could come here, turn on everything, and see a reasonable feed - a mix of topics, with only a sprinkling of rabid leftism. That’s the closest to my old reddit feed I’ve seen on lemmy. The defederation by leftist fascists made that possible. I can’t go to any other instance and get the same sane mix of content without a ton of work. The everything feeds elsewhere are mostly hate, mostly rabid leftism, mostly doom & gloom, with a sprinkling of other content.
I guess I’m done with lemmy.
I finally went back and utilised my nostr account for ye, so I am there.
Cool, share your address so we can follow you
Hey I’m back finally.
I don’t mind moving yet again, but can one of you please explain why we have to move exactly? other than getting defederated, where is the faggotry coming from? I’m not in the loop. I know @Wigglehard@exploding-heads.com said something about server owner trannies being gay or?
Also why did the server keep going down?
What’s the best way to get on Nostr on TOR?
The server problems started again when we upgraded from 18.3 to 18.4. I spent a few very late nights trying to keep them up without success.
So I would prefer to invest my time in the future (censorship resistant and user owns their I’d) rather then pouring more time into the Lemmy platform where censorship and defederation are growing in popularity.
makes sense. thanks
Can’t believe I’m just now seeing this.
I’ll stay on the Reddit-style side of the Fediverse, I’ve settled into a Kbin instance and run many Lotide communities. I think I’ll lock some communities I run here and point others to alternative communities.
Are there any non-leftist communities on lemmy after EH dies?
this seems even better https://lemmy.basedcount.com
Hey there. BasedCount admin here! I can confirm, we are not a leftist instance. We are also not a rightist or a conservative one. We are just pro free speech. Our admin team is made of people with different political affiliations and we try to not let that get in the way of how we run the instance. Although I don’t consider myself one, I probably would be a leftist myself, from an American point of view.
Anyway, we opened our instance to give !pcm@lemmy.basedcount.com a new home safe from the tyranny of the Reddit admins, but we are open to creating new communities. Anyone, feel free to shoot me a PM if you’d like to build anything on our instance.
I do have a follow up question for y’all, what’s your favorite community and instance (asides from EH) on lemmy?
Obviously mine is fathate, but my second is probably cooking (on world or shitjustworks), and home improvement. I also like the literature instance, and I hope it grows cause I want more book talk in my life.
Man, and I was trying to get a fathate subreddit rival going. Oh well.
I’ll check out Noster, but it doesn’t seem like a great forum format. Any instances y’all think I should try and remake fathate in?
You can try on https://satellite.earth Unfortunately atm it’s set up to where all post must be approved by the mod.
Lol, that’s retarded