• CoffeeBot@lemmy.ca
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    I don’t think that’s particularly bad. Logitech makes reliable input devices. I recall that the US Navy switched to Xbox controllers to control their periscopes on nuclear submarines and saved millions of dollars and found that people understood the controls better.

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      The navy uses it for periscopes, and training. Not piloting anything like this. This thing was definitely made as cheap as possible.

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        An off the shelf controller with several backup failsafes (they keep spares on board) is a perfectly reasonable way to do this. In such a cramped space, a hardwired or mounted helm would probably be continuously bumped or tangled.

        Any custom purpose-built wireless device would just introduce more complication than necessary.

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      Sure, but they should still have to be vetted by the Defense Logistics Agency. That includes Quality Assurance overview.

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    I mean, Logitech makes reliable stuff. But shouldn’t they at lease have a player 2 MadKatz controller in a bin somewhere?

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      The submarine seems to have only one button for on/off… Did they think they can connect to iTunes there in case of some boot issues?

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      Not a big difference since you were planning to be locked in underwater anyway

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    I had a Logitech F310 which started malfunctioning, where the left stick’s signal was always halfway to the left. Logitech’s quality isn’t what it used to be. I can imagine something like this happening on the submarine. Question is whether they had a replacement and if they even recognized that the gamepad was malfunctioning.

    Fun fact: The Logitech Extreme 3D-stick is used in many professional systems, but those are reliable.

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      I think most people are roasting their choice of game controller. The cheapo Logitech model. Plus if they wanted simple and reliable I would think a wired version would be better, not the wireless model. The military is all the time using them for controlling UAVs and stuff in the field. Nobody really pokes fun because it doesn’t look like the cheap controller you’d hand off to “player 2”.

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      Maybe, but wired is simpler then wireless and it sounds like everything was done on the cheapest possible route. It’s likely the controller, which was for the camera control(?) had nothing to do with the failure, but does shed some light into the design philosophy.

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      Im mocking them for going deep underwater in a tin can to look at bunch of rusty metal. Oh and they paid for the pleasure.

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    I don’t see any issues with this as long as they had several fail-safes in case of hardware malfunction. US military subs us Xbox controllers because it’s what people are comfortable with.

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    That is one of the least concerning parts of this lol, at least Logitech makes quality peripherals. If I had to choose a single manufacturer for input devices, it’d probably be them.

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    Fuck these people. Honestly dont care if they survive or not. Also fuck the titanic its just a fucking boat that cheaped out on lifeboats.

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    I’ve seen a video of US Navy using an Xbox controller (arguably for experimental weapon iirc but still). If it just works why overengineer it? I would be more concerned about that hull (scuttlebutt says it was just carbon over titanium frame, not titanium hull overlayed with carbon). However I guess we will have to wait until they find the boat to know the reason for failure.

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      Exactly. Making the controls yourself isn’t necessarily better, as long as the rudders and engines are engineered properly. Some seperate (emergency) control might be a good idea, in case the Bluetooth fails. Just to get the submarine back to the surface.

      The submarine is a one-off experimental one that isn’t certified, hasn’t been used a lot and dives deeper than almost any other submarine. That’s enough alarm bells for me. Whatever they use to control the vessel is irrelevant to me.

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    If they are still alive in it what a nightmare they must be enduring right now, with only like 30hrs of oxygen left.

    I feel like they likely lost pressure or some catastrophic failure and have been dead.

    Or theogotec controller died and they drifted away and haven’t been found.

    Either way it seems really bad for those inside.

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      I couldn’t imagine being in a cramped space 2.5 miles under the sea with 4 other people waiting for that time. Horrific comes to mind but I don’t think there is an adequate word for it.