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  • woelkchen@lemmy.world
    2·
    2 months ago

    If Google killed XMPP, how come some enterprise communication products (off the top of my head I can name two that are successful at least in Europe) use it?

    • poVoq@slrpnk.net
      8·
      2 months ago

      There is XMPP the protocol which is indeed still widely used by commercial entities, and there is XMPP the open federated network, also called Jabber, which is still alive but Google did kneecap it pretty hard back then.

      • woelkchen@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 months ago

        XMPP as used in the enterprise communication product my employer uses (AFAIK based on the common open source implementation) sucks as much on mobile as Xabber which I used back in the day. I get notifications 30 minutes late if at all. That thing killed itself by not adapting to smartphones.

        • poVoq@slrpnk.net
          1·
          2 months ago

          That’s a bad implementation then. Modern open-source XMPP works great on mobile, no problems with notifications at all on Android. iOS is more of a mixed bag, but that is solely Apple’s fault and applies to all messengers other than iMessage.

          • woelkchen@lemmy.world
            1·
            2 months ago

            That’s a bad implementation then. Modern open-source XMPP works great on mobile

            The issue was the state of mobile clients when XMPP died in the mainstream and state of the art was crap like Xabber. Conversations was better but too little, too late.

            iOS is more of a mixed bag, but that is solely Apple’s fault and applies to all messengers other than iMessage.

            Telegram works flawlessly pretty much everywhere, including iOS which my mom uses.

            • poVoq@slrpnk.net
              1·
              2 months ago

              Well, Monal on iOS doesn’t work worse than Telegram on iOS, so then apparently it’s flawless as well. I am not an iOS user, but I heard complaints about Telegram on iOS as well regarding notifications.

              • woelkchen@lemmy.world
                1·
                2 months ago

                Well, Monal on iOS doesn’t work worse than Telegram on iOS, so then apparently it’s flawless as well.

                Again: The current state is irrelevant when discussing the time frame when Google allegedly killed it. The state of Jabber and its clients was just abhorrently bad back in the day. That was the reason the world moved to WhatsApp. Google Talk has always been a niche product. That’s why it’s dead.

                • poVoq@slrpnk.net
                  1·
                  2 months ago

                  It’s not dead, and works fine. I am not disagreeing that it had a serious set-back but that’s water down the river.

                  Also WhatsApp is using a slightly modified version of XMPP, so your argument is a bit funny :)

                  • woelkchen@lemmy.world
                    1·
                    2 months ago

                    It’s not dead, and works fine.

                    Also WhatsApp is using a slightly modified version of XMPP

                    Obviously modified enough to work better with mobile when it launched than Jabber’s state of the art back then.

                    Again: Google did not kill Jabber. Jabber achieved its downfall on its own by being bettered by proprietary services that just worked better on mobile devices BACK THEN.