Ford's Model e division is now losing over $100,000 per EV sold. As a result, the carmaker is looking to scale back EV production, according to industry insiders who claim Ford has cut back on battery orders significantly.
What crack are you on? Ford makes money hand over foot making the best trucks for a while now. That’s why they are alive despite a few (and I believe you’re exaggerating) management missteps.
I honestly hate a lot of Toyotas and Japanese cars in general. Very sterile, boring, but their reliability and repairability is just a known fact, which is why I would only recommend the brand to people who only need a car as an appliance. I am an unapologetic fanboy of vintage Volvos though.
He literally said there is no reason to ever buy any other vehicle than a Toyota.
I said that I’d never recommend anything maker other than Toyota for a new car buyer, which I wouldn’t. There are no other makers right now with as strong of offerings as Toyota left. Some makers have competitive models, but no brand has as solid of a reputation.
Also wrong about the second part, I said that the stick Tacoma was more fuel efficient than the automatic, which I’ll admit is not the case anymore
Japanese cars were great in the 1990s, and phenomenal in the '80s, but now not so much. American automotive manufacturers have generally cut up with Japanese automakers in technology and reliability. Can be a lot more exciting too.
Ford sold 200,000 pickup trucks in Q1 2024 while Toyota sold 50,000 so those links alone do not tell the whole story. Those recalls are relatively small compared to Ford’s market.
Also, Fords are typically easier and cheaper to buy and there are more service centers for them. This is also related to them being the most popular fleet vehicle. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have a Toyota, but there’s a reason why you pay more for the “Toyota tax”.
Everyone has recalls when you are selling millions. Ford has average reliability while being the most capable truck and having the features the owners buy. The f150 has the best interior, infotainment, and has the best ride. It’s the second best hauler only beaten by the ram.New car owners have warranties and fin not care about most recalls. They drop off the car, get a free rental, and come back the next day in most cases.
If you’ve ever even purchased a new vehicle, much less a new truck, you clearly are an edge case in how you rate trucks and have no clue what is going on in the head of most potential truck buyers.
Well which one is it? I’ve literally only seen suburban LARPers who can’t even thread a ratchet strap buy or defend Ford trucks. I’ve spent decades of my life on construction job sites. You wanna know how to separate the serious career guys from the burnout cons? The smart ones are driving paid off Toyotas and the idiots have light duty domestics.
most potential truck buyers
Most potential truck buyers are car buyers who get upsold on the lot.
You clearly know nothing of the market and buyers nor a willingness to understand. You just want to lecture buyers who have different priorities and needs and don’t religiously follow /r/personalfiances buy a used Toyota take.
You fundamentally have misunderstood why Ford is successful, run your mouth about it, and then argued that the buyers are idiots. 👏👏👏
Ah, yes, the American consumer. Famous for their great financial judgment and ability to live within their means.
You fundamentally have misunderstood why Ford is successful
Protectionist policies, corporate lobbying, hostage market, historical opposition to union labor, and outsourcing production to Mexico and China? I understand those reasons well.
You type like you’re from Twitter (currently X) and I recommend you go back.
What crack are you on? Ford makes money hand over foot making the best trucks for a while now. That’s why they are alive despite a few (and I believe you’re exaggerating) management missteps.
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Nothing in any of these links indicate that Ford is not profitable.
There’s no reason to lie about these things, as Ford’s financials are publicly available.
This dude is just a Toyota fanboy. He literally said there is no reason to ever buy any other vehicle than a Toyota.
He also said that the manual Tacoma is more fuel efficient than the hybrid Maverick, so he’s not the sharpest tool in the shed.
I honestly hate a lot of Toyotas and Japanese cars in general. Very sterile, boring, but their reliability and repairability is just a known fact, which is why I would only recommend the brand to people who only need a car as an appliance. I am an unapologetic fanboy of vintage Volvos though.
I said that I’d never recommend anything maker other than Toyota for a new car buyer, which I wouldn’t. There are no other makers right now with as strong of offerings as Toyota left. Some makers have competitive models, but no brand has as solid of a reputation.
Also wrong about the second part, I said that the stick Tacoma was more fuel efficient than the automatic, which I’ll admit is not the case anymore
Japanese cars were great in the 1990s, and phenomenal in the '80s, but now not so much. American automotive manufacturers have generally cut up with Japanese automakers in technology and reliability. Can be a lot more exciting too.
Ford sold 200,000 pickup trucks in Q1 2024 while Toyota sold 50,000 so those links alone do not tell the whole story. Those recalls are relatively small compared to Ford’s market.
Also, Fords are typically easier and cheaper to buy and there are more service centers for them. This is also related to them being the most popular fleet vehicle. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have a Toyota, but there’s a reason why you pay more for the “Toyota tax”.
Nobody ever said consumers were rational!
My neighbor purchased a used Toyota Tacoma a couple of years ago for $20,000. A 1999 model year.
Everyone has recalls when you are selling millions. Ford has average reliability while being the most capable truck and having the features the owners buy. The f150 has the best interior, infotainment, and has the best ride. It’s the second best hauler only beaten by the ram.New car owners have warranties and fin not care about most recalls. They drop off the car, get a free rental, and come back the next day in most cases.
If you’ve ever even purchased a new vehicle, much less a new truck, you clearly are an edge case in how you rate trucks and have no clue what is going on in the head of most potential truck buyers.
Well which one is it? I’ve literally only seen suburban LARPers who can’t even thread a ratchet strap buy or defend Ford trucks. I’ve spent decades of my life on construction job sites. You wanna know how to separate the serious career guys from the burnout cons? The smart ones are driving paid off Toyotas and the idiots have light duty domestics.
Most potential truck buyers are car buyers who get upsold on the lot.
👌👍
You clearly know nothing of the market and buyers nor a willingness to understand. You just want to lecture buyers who have different priorities and needs and don’t religiously follow /r/personalfiances buy a used Toyota take.
You fundamentally have misunderstood why Ford is successful, run your mouth about it, and then argued that the buyers are idiots. 👏👏👏
Ah, yes, the American consumer. Famous for their great financial judgment and ability to live within their means.
Protectionist policies, corporate lobbying, hostage market, historical opposition to union labor, and outsourcing production to Mexico and China? I understand those reasons well.
You type like you’re from Twitter (currently X) and I recommend you go back.
Try towing a 13,000 pound trailer across the country with a Taco.
I’ll wait.