• Cuttlefish1111@lemmy.world
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    And herein lies the danger of Billionaires. Who stops them when they want to impose their tyrannical agendas on the vulnerable. Who prevents him from buying an atomic weapon and setting it off for a meme stunt or internet points ?

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          The wealthy and powerful have forgotten the bargain. They are out numbered. The masses will tolerate much, but there is always a limit.

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            Look at the wealth disparity in, say, India.

            We will apparently tolerate way, way more than we deal with in the West.

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      Who prevents him from buying an atomic weapon and setting it off for a meme stunt or internet points ?

      You have to be joking.

      Nearly every military in the world. Countless regulatory agencies. Intelligence agencies the world over. It’s pretty much known that the US made stuxnet to kill one country’s nuclear program. Do you seriously fucking think they wouldn’t stop a single billionaire?

      There’s also the fact that even he’s not that insane, and any other billionaire out there who wouldn’t want the effects of a nuke going off to get in the way of their own shit.

      If you were talking a dirty bomb, that might be within his reach. Buy some mines in third world countries, mine up some material, strap it to a conventional bomb. That’s also many orders of magnitude less severe (while still horrific). Also, most mining rights in areas with worthwhile radioactive material available have already been bought up by other entities with similar financial levels of backing.

      Actual nukes require quite a bit more than just an explosive and some radioactive material to build anyway, and things like nuclear material refinement facilities are quite easily visible from satelite imagery. They also require specialized hardware that is closely monitored. Sure he could pay to reverse engineer and/or get it built. Good luck keeping that secret for as long as it would take.


      The man’s a living embodiment of a chode with a diamond studded piercing. There’s plenty of shit to be upset at him about, or worried about, without getting anywhere close to this absurd. I sincerely hope that you weren’t being serious.

      If you want shock factor, talk about the slave mines his family wealth comes from, and the slave mines where we source lithium from for EV batteries. Talk about the high frequency of using child soldiers as security for said mines, in addition to the child slave labor.

      Talk about the highly likely intentional killing of Twitter by Saudi Arabian government’s investment into Musk as a retaliation for the Arab Spring and as a way to further control rapid information dissemination during crisises.

      There’s real reasons to despise him, going for such extremely ridiculous exaggerations only hurts the point you’re trying to make.

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        Im making a valid point while you’re trying to tell me what I should be saying instead

        Propagandists always try to control the narrative

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          “propagandists”? “narrative”!?

          Lol they answered your question with the very first sentence! The rest is just expanding on the point…

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          You are not making a valid argument, as evidenced by your argument being torn to shreds in the comments here.

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          Let me be crystal fucking clear here.

          You were not making a valid point.

          Your hypothetical is so amazingly absurd that I did not fully believe you were being serious until I saw your response.

          I’m still wondering if this isn’t some sort of weird ass false flag attempt to make people who dislike Musk look like absolute raving loonies.

          I tried to give you places to begin looking into things yourself so you (and anyone else as delusional as you) wouldn’t be worried about something so unlikely as to be effectively impossible.

          I’m not doing that work for you, I’ve already had to sit through countless discussions of this shit in my lifetime. Multiple nuclear engineers in the (extended) family, have met members of the regulatory orgs through them, and that’s what my parents wanted me to grow up to be (I fucked off into computers though).

          Beyond that, I tried to give you some stuff against Musk that’s far more rooted in reality than the wildest speculation.


          But I really couldn’t give a shit what you talk about. I just dislike seeing people undermining legitimate points by throwing around absurd exageration. Especially when there’s plenty of legitimate criticisms and concerns out there about Musk.

          Please, do go on about how he’s going to somehow outsmart intelligence agencies that took out an entire country’s nuclear program with a single goddamn computer virus. At this point it’s just entertaining.

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      Who prevents him from buying an atomic weapon and setting it off for a meme stunt or internet points

      The army I would suppose. You had a point to start and, yes, the billionaire class is allowed to do almost anything they want but only an absolute moron could honestly believe he would be allowed nuclear weapons.